# Bookmarked: Moats in AI, facebook and OpenAI

- Author: @gurupanguji
- Date: 2024-04-19
- URL: https://gurupanguji.com/blog/2024/04/19/moats-in-ai-facebook-and-openai/
- Categories: link, ai
- Tags: ai, daringfireball, facebook, llama3, llm, meta, openai, technology

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<p><a href="https://justin.searls.co/posts/metas-new-ai-chat-sucks-at-coding/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="">Justin Searls</a> writes: </p>
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> I've been pairing with ChatGPT (using GPT-4) every day for the last few months and it is demonstrably terrible 80% of the time, but 20% of the time it saves me an hour of headaches, so I put up with it anyway. Nevertheless, my experience with Llama 2 was so miserable, I figured Zuck's claim about Llama 3 outperforming GPT-4 was bullshit, so I put it to the test this morning.
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> I [agree with John Gruber](https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/04/18/meta-ai) that OpenAI lacks a moat, but what they still have is a pretty significant head start in the "server-side large-language model" market. Meta and Google are still clearly playing catch-up there. In the long-term, though, OpenAI really does need to figure out a way to avoid being outflanked by the larger platforms.

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<p><a href="https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/04/18/meta-ai" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="">Gruber</a> writes:</p>
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> I keep circling back to the notion that OpenAI has no moat. ChatGPT is certainly the best-known LLM, and perhaps still the best, but I don’t think that’s any more of a long-term competitive advantage than some company in 1986 having “the best C compiler”. What’s needed are ways to bring LLMs to users. To give them purpose, in products. That’s what Meta is doing, by integrating their AI into all of their major products.

*Source:* [Daring Fireball: Meta Releases New AI Assistant Powered by Llama 3 Model](https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/04/18/meta-ai)

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<p>I think moats are too early to be commented on because nobody still really understands what parameters matter from a user perspective / business perspective. I think Justin's considering this from a "help me code" / code productivity angle while Gruber's looking at this from a has-this-hit-mainstream-yet angle?</p>
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<p>In all these cases, early days is the answer. </p>
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<p>That said, I still think that Gruber's giving credit where due - at least Meta's making a cohesive effort. Sure, they've just slapped on a text box to all their products at this point. However, anyone in a large company knows that coordinating all of this means that there's cohesive push from the top. That suggests that there are clear owners and there's execution. Personally, that's a muscle that will help facebook execute fast. They've already shown they've the necessary muscle to learn from mistakes so, I'm bullish.</p>
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