# ⁂

- Author: @gurupanguji
- Date: 2024-08-25
- URL: https://gurupanguji.com/blog/2024/08/25/e2-81-82/
- Categories: essay, technology
- Tags: activitypub, fediverse, social-web

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<p>A couple days ago, some folks proposed a symbol - ⁂ - to help represent the fediverse. You should go read <a href="https://symbol.fediverse.info/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="">the introductory post</a>. </p>
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<p>This has riled some people up. The most cogent of the reactions come from Manu who pens his thoughts here: <a href="https://manuelmoreale.com/thoughts-on-symbols">https://manuelmoreale.com/thoughts-on-symbols</a></p>
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> This, to me, means absolutely nothing. But also, I think trying to unify people behind a silly symbol is the wrong move. And it’s also a misguided effort. A new symbol doesn’t solve anything and doesn’t help your cause. Also, *"A single symbol to represent that belonging can often be more relevant than individual icons for each service"* belonging to what? I am no fediverse citizen but I do consider myself a good citizen of the web. I try my best to make it a better place and I try to encourage people to own their corners of the web. Am I excluded from your fancy club because I don’t “federate”? Are you saying I don’t belong? I’m asking this rhetorically, because frankly speaking, I couldn’t give less of a fuck about belonging to some arbitrary definition.
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> Stop trying to make everything about symbols and flags and tribes. It’s not helping.

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<p>Personally, I think the proposal comes from a place of good intent. In fact, I also like this symbol more than the concentric circle thing that Facebook currently uses for threads federation. </p>
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<p>Manu’s discontent seems to come from a place where they don’t want to be labeled / be beholden to some arbitrary definition and are already taking the symbol for some undefined set of constraints. Which, hey <em>c’est la vie</em>. I understand the impulse. However, personally, I am going to support this proposal and would love for it to take off. </p>
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<p>As of now besides ActivityPub, which is already part of the web, Fediverse doesn’t have a symbol. To me it’s a symbol indicating that you are part of the broader web with some additional signals that you can follow the person / blog / stream along in a place and manner of your choosing. This could do with a symbol that’s not just “sharing.”</p>
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